Thomas McClain LAW

Birth:
1839
Sandy Lake, Mercer, Pennsylvania
Death:
1921
Marriage:
Abt 1864
Notes:
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Submitter: Doris Law 
Subject: The Law Family 
Message: My husband is Albert W. Law, his father is Albert L. Law, his grandfather was Albert O. Law, his greatgrandfather was William E. Law. We are in PA, but I understand they were once in the Seneca, New York area. Does anyone recognize these names?? 
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LETTER FROM ALBERT O. LAW IN NOTES UNDER WILLIAM ELLIOTT LAW STATES HE
IS SON OF THOMAS AND GIVES DATA.  ALSO SEE FILE ON RICHARD A. LAW ENC #37
FOR ORIGINAL LETTER IN MY POSSESSION.

////////////////////Researched by Eleanor Law Johnson
This is a possiblitiy as the age fits.....he died in 1921......  
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Thomas M Law 
    Age: 70 State: PA 
    Color: W Enumeration District: 0119 
    Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0015 
    County:  Venango 
    Relation:  Head of Household 
    Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place 
Wife Elizabeth 69 Pennsylvania 
Son Earl E 34 Pennsylvania 
Daughter-in-law Ella 25 Pennsylvania 
Grandson Floyd NR Pennsylvania 
      
   
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:14:16 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "The Johnsons"  | This is Spam | Add to Address Book 
Subject: Ellie on Friday AM re: Civil War record 
To: "Doris Law"  
     
Dear Doris,
      Was your Thomas McCain in the Civil War?  Found this on ancestry.com
    
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Thomas M. Law   View Image Online 
Images Online #: 918 State Filed: Pennsylvania 
Widow: Elizabeth Law Relative:    
Minor:   Comments:    
   
There's an invalid pension for about 1852 and a widows pension for 1921.... You can actually see the copy of card on-line on ancestry....It's pretty terrific.... I THINK THIS IS YOUR THOMAS>>>>>

Ellie

Subject: Ellie on Friday 
To: "Doris Law"  
       Dear Doris,
      Did you get all my emails last night  I'm telling you, I keep finding things in my research notebook on Law family.  THIS WILL THRILL YOU and give you lots of leads to check on 
I believe this book would be in the Mercer County Historical Society and maybe in your local library.  There is a separate index to it now as I don't believe this old book had an index unless it has been republished.....
SOURCE: History of Mercer County (PA)  p. 1059
A.G. Hoovler was educated in the common shcool, and was married May
13, 1862, to Mary U. Law, born May 3, 1841, in Sandy Lake Township,
daughter of William E. and Julia A. (McClain) Law, natives of Ohio
and Cool Spring Twp. respectively, and the parents of ten children:
Ephraim, married Sarah E. Denwoody
Thomas M., married Elizabeth Grove;
Mary U. (see above...md. Hoovler); 
Eveline, married Solomon Zedaker
Minnie J., married David B. Wilhelm;
Caroline, died small;
Amelia 
and Amanda (twins), the former lives with her mother and the latter is dead.
Julia A. married James H. Gilliland 
And an infant...deceased. 
William Law owned 200 acres of good land at his death February 29, 1876.  He was a Presbyterian, to which organization his widow is attached.  Our subject settled at marriage on his farm in Sandy Lake Twp., composed now of 130 ares.  He is also the owner of two houses and three lots the brick block partially occupied by Scott's hardward store, all in Sandy Lake Borough, and a house the value of a colt, the gift of his father.  He is a member of the I.O.O.F., A.O.U.W., K.& L of H; is a stockholder of the Stoneboro Fair and a director of the Mercer County Livestock Association.  He is a Republican and he and wife belong to the Presbyterian Church, of which he is a deacon.   His brother Jacob M., died, leaving two children;  Blanch and Catharine, of whom our subject is guardian, and they with their
mother reside on his farm in Sandy Lake Township.

This will hopefully give you more than you had.  These histories of counties are good but not proof and can contain errors.  So, you'll need to back it up with other sources when you can.

It seems they are saying that William E. Law originated in OHIO???? But, that doesn't coincide with the information in letter from Albert O. Law.  I think it would be an excellent idea to find them in the 1850, 1860 census and see where he says he was born.

I do have a source on Ephraim M. Law and Sarah E. Dewoody.
Venango County, Penn  VHC  P500 ci  from Family History Library, Salt
Lake City, UT
Marriage:  1861
Her parents: William and Mary Foster Dewoody (Denwoody in Mercer Co.
History).

If you go after the census records please send me copies....Hope all of this has "made your day."  Will keep digging....this so intriques me that there may be a connection somewhere.

With love, Ellie

PS I have a note that I couldn't locate them on the census records...Perhaps they were missed or I was asleep at the wheel. ha  Or maybe they were in Venango Co.....but I'd try again anyway and see if it was just missed.  They have to be there somewhere unless the census taker missed them completely.  If not in one census perhaps in another...worth a try.  Some county historical societies have even published books on the census....so that would really help too.


August 1, 2002
To: "Doris Law"  
           
Dear Doris,
       I looked in some old notes and have this...I don't know where I picked up this tidbit....usually I write my sources down:
WM. E. HAD BROTHER JACOB M....2 CHILDREN: BLANCHE & CATHERINE.
(it came from the Mercer County History)

1840 CENSUS...WM.E. LAW IN SANDY LAKE TWP, MERCER COUNTY, PA.
(BETWEEN AGES OF 20-30) AND 2 MALE CHILDREN UNDER 5, 5-10
2 FEMALES, 1  20-30, 1  70-80 (PROBABLY HIS OR HER MOTHER).

William Elliott Law
d. 29 Feb 1876
Sandy Lake,Mercer County,Pa

I'm thinking that maybe he'd be in the 1870 Census for Mercer County if he happened to live in Sandy Lake at that time....worth a try.  Also check 1850 and 1860 Census for him and his wife even 1880 to find her.  Wish I could get to SL to do some research Also, was there a newspaper in that area at that time?....go for an obituary. 
Call your reference desk in local library and they should have a newspaper directory telling you of newspapers in that area...when they existed, etc.

I'll keep looking.....it's amazing me what I'm finding in my own notes.  Guess I've always had an interest in William Elliott Law.  It must be meant to be that we found each other.....
Ellie
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Thomas M Law 
    Age: 70 State: PA 
    Color: W Enumeration District: 0119 
    Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0015 
    County:  Venango 
    Relation:  Head of Household 
    Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place 
Wife Elizabeth 69 Pennsylvania 
Son Earl E 34 Pennsylvania 
Daughter-in-law Ella 25 Pennsylvania 
Grandson Floyd NR Pennsylvania 
      
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:25:59 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "The Johnsons"  | This is Spam | Add to Address Book 
Subject: There's more....Ellie 
To: "Doris Law"  
       

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Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank
- Discharge Notes Allegiance   
Law Thomas M. K 4 Pennsylvania Cav. Bugler Bugler   Union  

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This may be him....

Also found this on ancestry......looks like there is another
Thomas M. Law in Venango Co,Pa .OR could it be your Thomas....the
ages fit so closely and his wifes name is
Elizabeth....INTERESTING>>>>>
    
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Thomas M Law 
    Age: 70 State: PA 
    Color: W Enumeration District: 0119 
    Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0015 
    County:  Venango 
    Relation:  Head of Household 
    Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place 
Wife Elizabeth 69 Pennsylvania 
Son Earl E 34 Pennsylvania (Ellie's note: he would be born about 1876
and Julia A. McClain would be in her 30's....so this may be a son)
Daughter-in-law Ella 25 Pennsylvania 
Grandson Floyd NR Pennsylvania 
      
   Ellie  


Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:48:08 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "The Johnsons"  | This is Spam | Add to Address Book 
Subject: Re: Ellie 
To: "Doris Law"     

Hi Doris,
       Looked for a T. Verner Law on ancesty and found this...it fits Thought this was exciting  This just proves how valuable obituaries are.  This is full of clues.......
       I called Mercer Historical Society but they weren't open on that day.  So, I'll try again.  And I tried Karen's number but it evidently isn't in service....she probably moved.  So, I'll keep trying.  Her name sounds familiar to me so I may find that I've even corresponded with her before.  I'll keep digging.
   
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Submitter: Penny Kulbacki 
Subject: Elizabeth Grove Law 
Message: Obit Abstract - Venango Citizen Press - Aug. 29, 1928 Elizabeth Grove Law, widow of Thomas M. Law, died Sat. at home (of daughter) 733 Liberty. D/o Jacob and Catherine Grove, born in New Lebanon, Mercer Co., 30 Sept 1840. Children: Mrs. R. S. Gilliland of Utica, Venango Co.; Oren B. of Sharpsville; Mrs. D. Milton Williams
of Polk; Mrs. William H. Bennett with whom she made her home; Maude G. of Oakland, Ca; E. Earl and T. Verner Law of Erie; Albert O. of Titusville. Brothers: J.B. of Compton, CA and J. M. of Keisters, PA 


On google I put in calendar and then found a site that will give you the month and year for just about any year you want:
    August 1928
   S  M Tu  W Th  F  S
            1  2  3  4
   5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31

So I figured that if this obituary was printed on 29th of August and it said she died on Saturday....it was more than likely the 25th.
   
This is entertaining don't you think  The internet is a marvel
Ellie
PS Hi to your father-in-law and your husband....
We've just got to be cousins....this is coming together so well....

--- Doris Law  wrote:
> 
>   HI Ellie,   You are certainly not bothering me, everything you find is  interesting and valuable.  First of all, Albert Otto Law is the one  you  found.  He was living with his son in Venango Co.--Polk, PA--at the
same  address from which he wrote you the letter in 1960.  His first  wife's name  was Gertrude B. Karns  1879-1920.  They were married in the  Franklin   Courthouse, Venango County.  His second wife's name was Olive(that  is all I   know) and dad couldn't remember. Someone else in the family may  have her   name.  Earl's name was Earnest Earl, date b.1875--date of death  unknown, the  one you show would make him 45 so it may be he.  The others were as  follows  if you should run acrossed them:  T. Verner, b 1881--?, Oren Burton
1867-1931,Meade Grove 1873--1955, Alletta Caroline (Gilliland) 1865-1935,  Maude Josephine (Williams) 1869--?, Minnie Grace (Bennett) 1870-1948.  Dad  feels sure that it was Cattaraugus County, New York as his father talked  about it.  There has also been a family rumor that Gertrude  may have been  part Indian. There is a town named Otto in the region, he thinks  that is an  odd name but, I had an uncle named Otto Curtis so I think it's just an old  name, but, there may be a connection, who knows.  Albert O lived in  Pittsburgh and also Titusville, PA.  I am told by my sister-in-law  that  there are some  records he has not given to me, but, she knows the brother of Wm  Elliot has never been found until now and that pleases her, nor did they  know about  Ephriam living with Cooper, so you have greatly helped.  I only  hope the  papers from Mercer Historical help you as much.
      There is another lady looking for a Law with a strange name.  Livewell  Law and Nancy Baggley.  Their daughter married Andrew  Redman/Redmond.  Lived  in Mercer Co. came from New York.  I thought I would mention this
> to you in  case they sounded familiar, she happened to be in the Historical bldg the same day trying to help someone  else and  heard our name.  Her e mail is    pamela@svol.net    maybe you have  questions for her.
      Look forward to your next mail.  Have you contacted Mercer??
                  
Elizabeth GROVE
Birth:
30 Sep 1840
New Lebanon, Mercer, Pennsylvania
Death:
1928
Pennsylvania
Father:
Mother:
Notes:
                   Law family

Research by Eleanor L. Johnson
   
ancestry.com......put in T. Verner law
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Submitter: Penny Kulbacki 

Subject: Elizabeth Grove Law 
Message: Obit Abstract - Venango Citizen Press - Aug. 29, 1928
Elizabeth Grove Law, widow of Thomas M. Law, died Sat. at home (of daughter) 733 Liberty. D/o Jacob and Catherine Grove, born in New Lebanon, Mercer Co., 30 Sept 1840. Children: Mrs. R. S. Gilliland of Utica, Venango Co.; Oren B. of Sharpsville; Mrs. D. Milton Williams of Polk; Mrs. William H. Bennett with whom she made her home; Maude G. of Oakland, Ca; E. Earl and T. Verner Law of Erie; Albert O. of Titusville.
Brothers: J.B. of Compton, CA and J. M. of Keisters, PA
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1920 Census  French Creek,Venango,Pa    Hertiage Quest   6/1/05
8 June
Rankin S. Gilliland                    60               Pa/Pa/Pa
Alletta                   wife                 54               Pa/Pa/Pa
Orrin B.                son                  29               Pa/Pa/Pa
Mary L.        dau in law              19               Pa/Pa/Pa
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Children
Marriage
1
Birth:
Abt 1871
Pennsylvania
Death:
Pennsylvania
Notes:
                   Did work according to this date:  abt. 1871
Pennsylvania....

   Possible....Eleanor Law Johnson research
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ALBERT LAW  Request Information (SS-5) 
    SSN 172-40-1375 Residence:  16342  Polk, Venango, PA 
    Born 5 Sep 1883 Last Benefit:     
    Died Dec 1967 Issued:  PA (1965) 
   

SON OF THOMAS, GRANDSON OF WILLIAM ELLIOTT LAW  ...SEE LETTER IN FILE
RICHARD A. LAW ENC. #37 OR SEE NOTES UNDER COMPUTER #377 WM. E. LAW.
LETTER IN FULL UNDER #a377.

IGI

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Submitter: Doris Law 
Subject: The Law Family 
Message: My husband is Albert W. Law, his father is Albert L. Law, his grandfather was Albert O. Law, his greatgrandfather was William E. Law. We are in PA, but I understand they were once in the Seneca, New York area. Does anyone recognize these names??


From: "Doris Law"  | This is Spam | Add to Address Book 
To: elliejohn@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: Ellie at 11:15PM....I should be in bed but I love this adventure 
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 07:27:50 -0400 
           
Dad says," yes that's him"--he knew he spent some time in Pittsburg . The amazing thing was William Elliot's brother, he had never found a  name ,  let alone his family.

>From: The Johnsons 
>To: Doris Law 
>Subject: Ellie at 11:15PM....I should be in bed but I love this adventure
>Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 23:13:43 -0700 (PDT)

>Hi Doris,
         So happy that your father-in-law is enjoying this.....Found this....does it fit in?
>Ellie

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Law, Albert O   View Image Online
   Age: 36 Year: 1920
   Birthplace: Pennsylvania Roll:  T625_1525
   Race: White Page:  7A
   State: Pennsylvania ED:  649
   County: Allegheny Image:  921
Township: Pittsburgh


From: "Doris Law"  | This is Spam | Add to Address Book 
To: elliejohn@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: Earl Law 
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:35:36 -0400     
   

    HI Ellie,   You are certainly not bothering me, everything you find is interesting and valuable.  First of all, Albert Otto Law is the one you found.  He was living with his son in Venango Co.--Polk, PA--at the same address from which he wrote you the letter in 1960.  His first wife's name was Gertrude B. Karns  1879-1920.  They were married in the Franklin Courthouse, Venango County.  His second wife's name was Olive(that is all I know) and dad couldn't remember. Someone else in the family may have her name.  Earl's name was Earnest Earl, date b.1875--date of death unknown, the one you show would make him 45 so it may be he.  The others were as 
follows if you should run acrossed them:  T. Verner, b 1881--?, Oren Burton  1867-1931,Meade Grove 1873--1955, Alletta Caroline (Gilliland) 1865-1935, Maude Josephine (Williams) 1869--?, Minnie Grace (Bennett) 1870-1948.  Dad feels sure that it was Cattaraugus County, New York as his father talked about it.  There has also been a family rumor that Gertrude may have been part Indian. There is a town named Otto in the region, he thinks that is an odd name but, I had an uncle named Otto Curtis so I think it's just an old name, but, there may be a connection, who knows.  Albert O lived in Pittsburgh and also Titusville, PA.  I am told by my sister-in-law that 
there are somerecords he has not given to me, but, she knows the brother of Wm Elliot has never been found until now and that pleases her, nor did they know about Ephriam living with Cooper, so you have greatly helped.  I only hope the papers from Mercer Historical help you as much.
     There is another lady looking for a Law with a strange name.  Livewell Law and Nancy Baggley.  Their daughter married Andrew Redman/Redmond.  Lived in Mercer Co. came from New York.  I thought I would mention this to 
you in case they sounded familiar, she happened to be in the Historical bldg the same day trying to help someone else and heard our name.  Her e mail is    pamela@svol.net    maybe you have questions for her.
      Look forward to your next mail.  Have you contacted Mercer??
Doris
                  
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Earnest Earl LAW
Birth:
1875/76
Pennsylvania
Death:
 
Marr:
 
Notes:
                      
--- Doris Law  wrote:
> From: "Doris Law" 
> To: elliejohn@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: There's more....Ellie
> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 20:46:11 -0400
> 
> 
>    I want to tell you how pleased you have made a 86 yr old  gentleman.   These are indeed his relatives, he remembers hearing he was a  bugler.  Your   mail has brought back memories of things his dad told that he had
forgotten.     He said to tell you the Earl mentioned below is Albert O's (the  one who  wrote to you in 1960 )brother, and to thank you for him.  I have a  History of  Mercer Co book, but, it is the first one which is 1796-1896.  I  have never  found a Law in it.  I know there is one that is 1888.  You must  belong to  ancestry.com to have gotten so much info.  I can't wait to hear  what you  receive from Mercer and if it fills in the gaps.  Will keep in  touch.      
   Doris
   
   
From: The Johnsons 
To: Doris Law 
Subject: There's more....Ellie
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:25:59 -0700 (PDT)

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Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction  Rank - Discharge Notes Allegiance
Law Thomas M. K 4 Pennsylvania Cav. Bugler Bugler   Union

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> >This may be him....

> >Also found this on ancestry......looks like there is another Thomas M. Law in Venango Co,Pa .OR could it be your Thomas....the ages fit so closely and his wifes name is Elizabeth....INTERESTING>>>>>
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Thomas M Law
   Age: 70 State: PA
   Color: W Enumeration District: 0119
   Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0015
    County:  Venango
    Relation:  Head of Household
     Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place
Wife Elizabeth 69 Pennsylvania
Son Earl E 34 Pennsylvania (Ellie's note: he would be born about
> 1876
>and Julia A. McClain would be in her 30's....so this may be a son) >Daughter-in-law Ella 25 Pennsylvania
> >Grandson Floyd NR Pennsylvania 
   Ellie

From Doris....
Earl's name was Earnest Earl, date b.1875--date of death 
unknown
                  
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Thomas McClain Law - Elizabeth Grove

Thomas McClain Law was born at Sandy Lake, Mercer, Pennsylvania 1839. His parents were William Elliott Law and Julia A. Mc Clain.

He married Elizabeth Grove Abt 1864 . Elizabeth Grove was born at New Lebanon, Mercer, Pennsylvania 30 Sep 1840 .

They were the parents of 2 children:
Albert Otto Law born Abt 1871.
Earnest Earl Law born 1875/76.

Thomas McClain Law died 1921 .

Elizabeth Grove died 1928 at Pennsylvania .