Thomas PALMER

                   Occupation: ROYAL PHYSICIAN Sir John Hinton, son of Sir Thomas and Catherine (Palmer) Hinton, b. at Chilton Foliot July 10, 1603, bapt. as St. Martin's, Chilton Foliot July 17, 1603; entered Eton College 1618; matriculated Queen's College, Oxford, Nov. 9, 1621, aged 18; graduated B.A. 1625; M.A. 1638. he studied medicine in London and Oxford, 1629-33. In 1633 he went to Leyden, enrolling there as a Student of Medicine, April 10, 1633, aged 30: graduated M.D. 1640, and returned to London, where on November 17, he appeared before the Board of Censors [dwb: examiners] of the Royal College of Physicians for examination for the Special License given by that body. He presented Letters from his father's old friend, Henry Pierrepont Marquess of Dorchester, one of the Principal Secretaries of State to the Queen Henrietta Maria, wife of Charles I. Appointed Field Surgeon, Royal Army, 1642. He was created D. Medicus at Oxford, 1 November 1642. Appointed Physician to Charles, Prince of Wales, 1643. In 1657 he was appointed Fleet Surgeon on the ...Mayflower..., Drake's Flagship. March 4, 1664 he was admitted to Lincoln's Inn, and also made a Fellow of the College of Physicians and Surgeons in Ordinary to Charles I and Katherine Braganza; he was knighted by Charles I for his services in the Great Plague. Dr. Hinton married while a student at Leyden, a lady whose christian name was Elizabeth Dilke (?). From 1645 to his wife's death in 1656, he resided in a house that was known as Fullwood Rents. After 1656 he resided in a house in St. Bride's Parish, where his only daughter Sarah kept house for him until her death, November 1679. Then he removed to a humble dwelling in the Parish of St. Martin-in-the-Field, where he died in extreme poverty, October 10, 1682, and one Humphrey Weld was appointed administrator of his estate. [Administrative Act Book of P.C.C. 1682. Folio 154.]There is a very good sketch of Dr. Hinton in Monk's ...College of Physicians..., Vol. I, p. 329, and in Stephen's Dictionary of National Biography, Vol. XXVII, p. 7. His ...Memoirs... of which only 100 copies were privately printed in 1814, were reincorporated in the third series of Sir Henry Ellis' ...Original Letters..., Vol. IV, p. 196. As far as we know Dr. Sir John Hinton had five sons and the one daughter.Thanks to Notes from Margie marhinton@earthlink.net 9/29/2005 for sending more of the above quoted paragraph:Sir Doctor John Hinton was resident in London at Fullwood Rents between 1645 to 1648 at which time his wife died, then he moved to a house in St. Brides Parish where his only daughter kept house for him. There is a very good sketch of Dr. Hinton in Monk's `College of Physicians,' Volume I, page 329. His 'memoirs' of which only 199 copies were printed in 1814 is also very good reading. If there is one man who deserves credit for establishing the Hinton name in the New World, he certainly does. His family supported the company which his father owned. He had a sister, a brother, three sons and many grandsons who came to the New World to settle. Also, Dr. Hinton came to the new World for the first time in 1622 with his brother-in-law Captain (later Governor of Virginia) Samuel Matthews. Dr. Hinton returned to England to report his findings to his father... . It has also been stated that Dr. John Hinton married Catherine Van de Ruckle after the death of his first wife, but no proof is found of this marriage.************Notes from http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?dickinson::hinton::1367.html.....manuscrpt by Wharton Dickinson. Some of the words appear to be missing, as they don't seem to flow too well. The exact number of his children is uncertain. The eldest, Thomas, and his two youngest brothers, Clement and Richard, went to Maryland after the London Fire of 1666, Thomas line went to Baltimore in 1690, Philadelphia in 1700 and New York in 1790. Clement left no issue. Richard was the ancestor of all of the Maryland Hintons. Dr. Hinton's second son, James, was admitted to Lincolns Inn Mar. 19, 1657 as "2nd Son of John Hinton of Earlscott Co
unty Wilts, Doctor of Medicine." Called to the War in 1666, two of his sons, Col. James and Col. John, settled in North Carolina and are the ancestors of all Hintons south of Virginia. Doctor Hinton's third son, Edward, was for many years Master of the Free School at Whitney, Oxford, and Kel Kenny, Ireland. The fourth son John was also Master of the Free School at Whitney, Oxford. New York, N.Y. September 14, 1912 Wharton Dickinson (signed)************Notes from http://genforum.genealogy.com/hinton/messages/965.htmlRe: John Hinton of Nansemond Posted by: David Beatty Date: September 04, 2000 at 12:13:13 In Reply to: Re: John Hinton of Nansemond by Roger L. Russell 965 of 2502 I have to agree with Roger. I'm afraid I find Adelle Harper's research unconvincing in bearing out the argument that James was Col. Hinton's brother, rather than his father. I have taken the liberty of copying Harper's text, interspersing my arguments (noted "DWB") based on Philip Dickinson's research (see my website: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3250/gen_lhlinp.html) as follows. Please forgive the lengthiness. Harper: SIR JOHN HINTON, M.D., born at Chilton Foiliot July 10, 1603, baptized at St. Martin's July 17, 1603, ?. for his services during the Great Plague. DWB: Harper agrees with Dickinson (even with at least one error) in the above points. Harper: Dr. Hinton married while a student at Leyden a lady whose name was Elizabeth; it is believed that her surname was Dilke. From 1645 to his wife's death in 1656, he resided in a house in what was known as Fullwood Rents, after 1656, he resided in a house in St. Bride's Parish, here his only daughter, Sarah kept house for him until her death, Nov. 1679; then he removed to a humble dwelling in Parish of St. Martin's-in-the-Field, where he died in extreme pverty. (Oct. 10, 1682) (See Administrative Act Book, P. 1682, Folio 154). As far as is known, Dr. Hinton had five sons and one daughter. DWB: Dickinson (see my website for his documentations, which are cited throughout the genealogy. I don't know what Harper's documentation is.) has convincing documentation of Dr. Hinton's children. They are: i. Thomas b. 1639 (who came to Maryland in 1667 with Dr. Hinton's youngest son, Clement), ii. James b. 1642 (who, as far as can be ascertained, did not come to America), iii. Edward b. 1643 (who is last known in Ireland), iv. John, b. 1644 (who did not come to America, but was Prebendary of Salisbury Co. Wilts from 1693 until his death in 1720), v. Clement (the youngest son, who came to Maryland in 1667 with Thomas, his eldest brother), and vi. Sarah (who remained unmarried and, after her mother's death, kept house for her father until her own death). Harper: Three of Dr. Hinton's sons came to American and finally settled in North Carolina. DWB: According to Dickinson, only 2 of Dr. Hinton's sons are documented as coming to America - Thomas, the eldest, and Clement, the youngest. Harper: James, born 1642, seems to have been the eldest and was in Perina, in 1701 and 1710, then apparently South until we finally find himin Chowan County, N.C. DWB: James, based on Dickinson's documentation, was, in fact, the 2nd eldest son of Dr. Hinton, so documented by his admittance to Lincoln's Inn, 1659. However, the James referred to by Harper is actually the son of James, son of Dr. Hinton, according to Dickinson. If Harper's James were this man, he would be 59 at the time of arriving in America, which would be an impractical or unrealistic undertaking for a man of that age in those times. Harper: His brothers, John and William, had preceded him there, where he purchased land from William Hinton, who was evidently his brother, as there is no record of any other William Hinton. DWB: According to Dickinson, Dr. Hinton's son, John, remained in Salisbury from 1693 until his death in 1720, with a documentable position as Prebendary there. Also, Dickinson does not have evidence of a son of Dr. Hinton named William. So, this becomes an extreme leap of faith for Harper, with no documentation for a son named William, and docomuntab
le evidence that John stayed in England until his death. Harper: JOHN HINTON, the youngest son came to the Colony of North Carolina, about 1720. DWB: Dr. Hinton's son John was not his youngest son, but 2nd youngest, nor did he come to America ever come to America - see above. If he had come to America, according to Harper, he would have been 76 at the time. Dickinson states that his John came to America "before 1710", which would still make him at close to 66 in Harper's genealogy, another unrealistic expectation for a man of that age at that time. Harper: He was younger son of Sir John Hinton, M.D., and his wife, Elizabeth Dilke, member of the notable Berkshire and Wiltonshire family which had intermarried with the Baronial house of Palmer of Sussex. This John Hinton, the elder, of Chowan precinct, was a 'man of prominence, wealth and widely spread connections', and traditionally called 'Colonel'. Just how he acquired this military title is not known. On April 4, 1722, he was granted 350 acres of land on Bennet's Creek in Chowan and later acquired a large landed estate. DWB: He would have acquired this land at age 78, according to Harper's genealogy. Harper: He married Mary Hardy, daughter of John and Rebecca Hardy, and grand-daughter of Captain John Hardy, born in England, and his wife, Alice Bennett, daughter of Thomas Bennett, born in England. DWB: According to Dickinson, John, son of Dr. Hinton, married Anne Martin, daughter of Edward Martin and Anne Brice, in 1670. Harper: In Colonel John Hinton's Will, probated the 25th April, 1732, he mentioned his wife, Mary, his well beloved son, Hardy, and well beloved brother, William Hinton, who was the overseer and trustee for his four sons. Their children: i. Colonel John DWB: This son was a minor child at the time of his father's death - neither was he a Colonel at the time of the will, nor was he the eldest - see Dickinson's list of children on my website. Harper: ii. Hardy iii. William iv. Malachi, served in the Revolution with the rank of Lieutenant; married name of wife unknown, numerous descendants in Johnston County, N.C. v. Rachel vi. Mary, married Wiley Jones vii. Sarah, married Benjamin Blanchard viii. Nancy (Ann), married Solomon Alston, ancestor of Honorable James Alston Cabell, of Richmond, Va., a member of the N.C. Society of Cincinnati. ix. Charity x. Rose xi. Judith DWB: William and Col. John, the elder, both died with multiple minor children - a most questionable aspect for men who would, under Harper's genealogy, have been in their late 80's or early 90's at their death. Harper does not address when Dr. Hinton's son "William" was born, but in her genealogy he would have to be older than her Col. John, "the younger son of Sir John Hinton, M.D." It is my understanding that Harper considered but rejected James as the father of Col. John. I do not see that argument addressed in the pages of her genealogy deal with Dr. John. Since there are no references or sources given for Harper's information, I have to say that Dickinson's sources - which include the Administrative Act Book of P.C.C.; Sir Henry Ellis' "Original Letters", Vol. IV, p. 196; the Maryland Archives and other official Maryland records; the North Carolina Hist. and Genealogical Register (especially regarding Col. John Hinton); and "Alstons and Allstons of North and South Carolina" - are reputable and can be scrutinized if there is some doubt to Dickinson's work. It appears to me that both Harper and Dickinson may have some unanswered questions, but it is my belief that Harper chose to compress two generations into one to answer her questions. Re: John Hinton of Nansemond Posted by: Roger L. Russell Date: September 04, 2000 at 19:44:37 In Reply to: Re: John Hinton of Nansemond by David Beatty 967 of 2502 David, You did a masterful job following through on both Dickinson and Harper. Both jumped generations and the ages never fit. Thank you for such a service that needed to be performed. Best Regards, Roger L. Russell ***********Notes from http://www.couchgenweb.com/gwinnett/hinton7.htmSIR DOCTOR JO
HN CHAPMAN2 HINTON (THOMAS1) was born July 10, 1603 in ,Chilton Foliat, Wiltshire, England, and died October 10, 1682 in St MartinsParish, Chilton Foliat, Wiltshire, England. He married (1) OR DUKE ELIZABETH DILKE in ,London, Middlesex, England. She was born Abt. 1598 in of, Benhall, Suffolk, England, and died 1656 in Fullwood Rents, Chilton Foliat, Wiltshire, England. He married (2) CATHERINE VANDER RUCKLE Abt. 1660. Notes for SIR DOCTOR JOHN CHAPMAN HINTON:Left Engl in 1622 with his sister, Mary Francis and her husband for the colonies. In 1624, he returned to Engl to report his findings to his father. Entered Eton Col 1618, matriculated Queens Col (Oxford Univ), Oxford, 9 Nov 1621, grad BA 1625, MA 1628. Studied medicine at Westminster Chemical Sch, 1625-1629. Appeared before the Board of Censors of the Royal Col of Phgysicians for examination for the special license given by that body. Presented letters from his fathers old friend Henry Pierrepont, Marquess of Dorchester, one of the principal Secretaries of State, showing papers where he had also been appointed Physician in Ordinary to the Queen, Henrietta Maria,wife of King Charles I. Later appointed Field Surgeon, Royal Army in 1642.Knighted by King C harles I for his services during the great plague.