Thomas JOHN

Birth:
2 Feb 1820
Wood, Parish of Roach, Pembroke, Wales
Chr:
5 Mar 1820
Parish of Brawdy, Pembroke, Wales
Death:
25 Jan 1890
Portage, Box Elder, Utah
Burial:
27 Jan 1890
Portage, Box Elder, Utah
Marriage:
13 Jul 1841
Parish of Roach, Mathrey, Pembroke, South Wales
Notes:
                   Thomas John was a shoemaker. He married and left all his people to come
to America. Thomas and Margaret married in Wales.

He came to Utah Oct. 17, 1862, Henry W. Miller Company. His wife Margaret came with him.

Book "Pioneers and Prominent Men of Utah".

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Record from Janet J. Newman, 1160 East 200 South, Bountiful, Utah  84010


BIRTH: Nonconformists Registers; Pembroke; Wales; Pembroke 2; Parish of
          Brawdy; Trefgarn Owain Independent Chapel; p. 8; FHL film 813,550
MARRIAGE: (1)Marriage Entry #15; Registration District Haverfordwest; 1841.
             (2) Endowment House Sealings; Book H; p. 307; #3901; FHL film
                 183,398.
DEATH: Cemetery Records of Box Elder County, Ut; p. 53; FHL book 979.242 V3cb.
BURIAL: Portage Cemetery Records; FHL book 979.242/P1 V3j.
BAPTIAM: Cuffern Mountain Branch; British Mission; p. 6; #9; FHL film 104,168.
            (Rebaptized 15 Oct 1876; Portage Ward Record of Members Early to
            1900; p. 1; FHL film 0,026,363)
ENDOWMENT: Endowment House Endowments; Book F; p. 64; #9; FHL film 183,405.
SS: (1) Endowment House Sealings; Book D; p. 671; #9094; FHL film 183,395.
       (2) Endowment House Sealings; Book H; p. 307; #30901; FHL film 183,398.
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following from Anna Austin:
BIRTH:  date of birth also listed as 22 Jan 1820 on some family group sheets and the IGI.

CHILDREN: His marriage to Jane Green had no children, but in searching the Logan Temple records I found that Jane Green and Thomas John had two boys sealed to them, possibly from a previous marraige.  Logan Temple Records, 1884-1891, film # 0178087, Book A, children sealed to parents, pg 213, with Robert Angus Bain acting for children.(Salt Lake Family History Library, October 11 2002).

SEALING OF CHILDREN TO PARENTS:  Logan Temple, 29 May 1885, pg 215, Thomas John (dead) born Oct 1835 in Wood, Pembroke, Wales, died Oct 1835, sealed to Thomas John and Margaret Thomas John, with Robert Angus Bain acting for child.
    Logan Temple, 10 Jan 1886, pg 334, children sealed to Thomas John  and Margaret Thomas John: William John, Charles John, Ann John Smith, James John, Levi John, Henry John, and Letitia John Gibbs.
    Logan Temple, 14 July 1886, pg 443, Mary Jane John Hawkley sealed to parents, film # 0178087, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah (Oct 2002).

SEALING TO SPOUSE:  Salt Lake Temple and Endowment House records, Books C & D, film #1149514, pg 671, #9094, Thomas John, born 29 Jan 1820, Wood, Pembroke, Wales, was sealed to Margaret Thomas, born 18 Aug 1814, Lochfean, Pembroke, Wales, in the Endowment House on 8 Dec 1866, by G Q Cannon, witnessed by SL Sprague and WW Phelps. (Salt Lake Family History Library, Oct 2002).

SEALING TO SPOUSE: Salt Lake Temple and Endowment House records, Book H, film # 0183398, item #3901, Thomas John, born 29 Jan 1820, Wood, Pembroke, South Wales, was sealed to Jane Green, born 8 Nov 1819, Preston, Lancaster, England, on 28 Oct 1872, in the Endowment House by Pres Wells with  Allister and George O Pitkin as witnesses.  (Salt Lake Family History Library, October 2002).
                  
Margaret THOMAS
Birth:
14 Aug 1815
Pembroke, So. Wales
Death:
8 May 1894
Portage, Box Elder, Utah
Burial:
10 May 1894
Portage, Box Elder, Utah
Mother:
Notes:
                   BIRTH: Lochfaen, St. Elvis, Pembrokshire, South Wales
Christened : 18 Aug 1814  Lochvrane, of Brawd, Pembrokeshire, South Wales
MARRIAGE: Registration District Haverfordwest; 1841.
DEATH: Portage Ward Records of Members Early to 1900; P. 1; FHL film 0,026,363
BURIAL: Portage Cemetery Records; FHL book 979,242/P1 V3j.
BAPTISM: Cuffern Mountain Branch; British Mission; P. 10; #59; FHL film.
            104,168; (Rebaptized 15 Oct 1876; Portage Ward Record of Members
            Early to 1900; p. 1; FHL film 0,026,363).
ENDOWMENT: Endowment House Endowments; Book F; p. 64; #9; FHL film 183,405.
SS: Endowment Sealings; Book D; p. 671; #9094; FHL film 183,395.

Record from Janet J. Newman 1160 East 200 South, Bountiful, Utah 84010

Margaret came with husband Thomas John to Utah in 1862.
                  
Children
Marriage
1
Thomas JOHN
Birth:
Oct 1835
Wood, Pembroke, Wales
Death:
Oct 1835
Wood, Pembroke, Wales
 
Marr:
 
Notes:
                   NAME-BIRTH-DEATH-SEALING:  name, date and place of birth and death, and sealing of child to parents found on Logan Temple records, page 215, 29, May 1885, with Robert Angus Bain acting for child, film #0178087, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah. (October 2002)
                  
2
Birth:
17 Dec 1838
Wood, Parish of Roach, Pembroke, South Wales
Death:
23 Jul 1872
Mile End Old Tow, London, Middlesex County, England
Marr:
6 Jul 1863
St. Leonards, Shoreditch, Midd 
Notes:
                   BIRTH: Register of Births #H 1; Sub-district of Haverfordwest; 1838; rec. 27
          Jan 1838.
MARRIAGE:Registration District Shoreditch; 1863.
DEATH: Registration District Mile End Old Town; 1872; rec. 26 July 1872.
BAPTISM: Cuffern Mountain Branch; British Mission; p. 11; #71; FHL film
            104,168.
ENDOWMENT:
SS:IGI; Batch M0408061; Serial Sheet 8580.
SP:

Bpt: 12 Apr 1857


from Anna Austin
BIRTH:  certified copy of an entry of birth, registration district, Haverfordwest, birth in the sub-district of Haverfordwest, 1838, in the County of Pembroke and Town, column 156, born 17 December, Wood Roch Parish, Phoebe, a girl to Thomas John, father, and Margaret Thomas (spinster), mother. Occupation of father, farmer. Signature of informant and residence, Ann Thomas, grandmother, Wood Roch Parish, occupier of house, registered 27th January, 1838, before Thomas Ellis, Registrar.

MARRIAGE:  copy of marriage register, pg 82, as researched by Don Hawkley, of Boise, Idaho, while on his mission to England; #863, marriage soleminized at the Parish Church in the Parish of S. Leonard Shoreditch in the County of Middlesex, married 6 July 1863, James Frederick Cusworth, age 23, bachelor, profession, compositor; father, James Cusworth, profession, leather dresser; married to Phoebe Johns, age 23, spinister; profession, servant; residence at time of marriage, Hackney Road; father, Thomas Johns, profession, bootmaker; signed by them and witnessed by Henry Wilton and Adah Cusworth.(1989)  Also a certified copy by the General Register Office, London, #MB 387321.

NAME:  changed spelling of name to correspond to marriage certificate, changed from Phebe John to Phoebe Johns.

DEATH: (Date of 2 Dec 1916, from family group sheet from Carol Chase, copied by me 1997, changed to correspond with certified death certificate).  Ceritfied death certificiate #DXZ 062734 from General Register Office, registration district Mile end Old Town, year 1872, death in sub-district of Mile End Old Town Western in the County of Middlesex, England line #469, on the twenty third July 1872, at 35 Turner Street, died Phoebe Cusworth, female, age 33 years, wife of James Frederick Cusworth, compositor; cause of death gastro enterritis, indocarditis (certified); informant, J. F. Cusworth, present at death, 35 Turner Street, Mile End; registered twenty sixth July 1872 by John B Ratcliff, Registrar; certified 2nd April, 1992.
                  
3
Birth:
7 Nov 1841
Giliaden, Mathry Parish, Pembroke, Wales
Death:
27 Dec 1916
Thatcher, Graham, Arizona
Marr:
2 Oct 1879
Giliaden, Mathry Parish, Pembr 
Notes:
                   BIRTH:    Certificate YH 229858 Reg. Dist. Haverfordwest, Sub-dist. Saint               Davids, County of Pembroke, Wales.

BIRTH:     Birth Registration entry #49; Register of Births #SD3;                        Sub-district of Haverfordwest; 1841; rec. 5 Dec 1841
MARRIAGE: (1) EH Sealings; Book D; P. 543; #8145; FHL film 183, 395.
             (2) for time; EH Sealings; Book L; p. 109; FHL film 183, 402.
             (3) EH Sealings; Book M; p 53; FHL film 183, 402.
DEATH:    AZ Death Cert.;State Index #160; County Reg. #8; Local Reg. #8l               filed  8 Feb 1917.
BURIAL:   Death Cert. and Thatcher Cemetery Records; FHL film 002,098.
BAPTISM:  Cuffern Mountain Branch; British Mission; p. 10; #60;
             FHL film  104,087.
SEALINGS TO PARENTS: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334;
             FHL film 178,087
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From: Anna Austin

BIRTH:  certificate of birth for district of Haverfordwest, sub-district of Saint Davids, Pemborke, S Wales.

SEALING TO PARENTS:  Logan Temple records, film #0178087, pg 334, 10 Jan 1886, William John, born 7 Nov 1841, Mathry, Pembroke, Wales, sealed to Thomas John, born 29 Jan 1820, Wood, Pemborke, Wales and Margaret Thomas John, born 20 Aug 1816, Lochfair, Pembroke, Wales. (Salt Lake Family History Library, Oct 2002)

SEALING TO SPOUSE:  Salt Lake Temple and Endowment House records,film #1149514, pg 543, item #8145, William (Jones) John, born 7 Nov 1841, Methry, Pembroke, Wales, was sealed to Sarah Ashton, born 8 Aug 1849, Windle, Lancaster, England, in the the Endowment House, on 10 Nov 1865 by W Woodruff, witnessed by SL Sprague and WW Phelps. (Salt Lake Family History Library, Oct 2002)

MARRIAGE: another possible date given is 31 Dec 1865/ also another date is possibly 6 May 1884, SLC, UT, Endowment House (Carol Chase, 1997)

PRIESTHOOD:  Served on the first High Council of Malad Stake with his father. Ordained an Elder on 2nd Dec 1877 by Martin V Hale, per microfilm record of Portage Ward records, Portage, Utah, #013-003-0026363, page 4.

BAPTISM:  re-baptised 2nd Dec 1877 by Martin V Hale and reconfirmed the same date by the same person per microfilm record of Portage Ward #013-003-0026363.

HISTORY:  He owned the first team of horses in Portage.  He was a good musician and played the violin for dances, while two of Charles's wives sang.

BURIAL:  Thatcher Cemetery, Thatcher, Arizona - from records of Carol Chase, 1997.
                  
4
Birth:
21 Apr 1843
Guiliaden, Mathrey Parish, Pembroke, Wales
Death:
12 Aug 1909
Mancos, Montezuma, Colorado
Marr:
11 Oct 1880
Portage, Box Elder, Utah 
Notes:
                   BIRTH:Certificate -born at Guiliaden Mathry Parish- Reg. Dist. Haverfordwest
         Sub-dist. Saint Davids in the County of Pembroke. Copy of cert. in
         possession of Carol F. Green  1298 St. James Ln., St.George, UT  84770

BIRTH:Register of Births#3; Sub-district of Saint Davids; rec. 28 May 1843.

MARRIAGE: (1) EH Sealings; Book D; p. 543; #8137; FHL film 183,395.
             (2) EH Sealings; Book J; p. 58; #742; FHL film 183,400.
             (3) EH Sealings; Book L; p. 193; FHL film 183,402.

DEATH:CO Death Cert.; Mancos CO.; File #7225a.
   Died of Cancer of the stomach.

ENDOWMENT:EH Endowments; Book E; p. 175; #7; FHL film 183,405.

SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334; FHL film 178,087.

OCCUPATION:Indian Scout, sheepman and farmer.

Another Bpt date: 24 Mar 1857.

Following from Anna Austin;
BIRTH:  CERTIFIED COPY of an entry of birth, registration District Haverfordwest,1843, found in sub-district of Saint Davids in the County of Pembroke, #428, born 21st of April 1843 at Guiliaden, Mathry Parish, Charles son of Thomas John and Maragaret (Thomas) John of Guliaden.  Father was a shoemaker.

IMMIGRATION: in March 1861 the family had saved enough in the Perpetual Emmigration Fund to pay passage accross the Atlantic Ocaean to New York, on the ship called "The New York-Manchester".  They landed in Catle Garden, New York, with parents and all children except Phoebe, who had married and stayed in London.  Charles and William found work in a large shop in New York where military equipment was being made. His father, Thomas, set up a shoe shop in their house.  They saved enough money to pay their way to Florence, Nebraska, which proved to be Winter Quarters for a large group of Saints.  While thier immigration train was traveling thru eastern Missouri there was a fire in a boxcar that destroyed everything they had but a few spools ofballs of thread for sewing shoes. After six weeks the Church teams came from the valleys of the mountians to take them to Zion." They crossed the plains with Capt. Henry W. Miller's Co., leaving Florence 8 August,1862, with 60 wagons and about 665 immigrants and arrived in Salt Lake City, 17 October, 1862. The company had suffered considerable sickness and about 28 persons died on the journey," (extract from Church Chronology by A. Jensen.)

Charles, 19, and his brother, 21, hired out to drive church teams across the plains in the company of Capt. Dames.  Since they had no experience it was very difficult at first, but soon they learned to yoke up the oxen and enjoyed their work. (The above account taken from the Life History of Charles John as compiled by Vivian John Baker)

SEALING TO PARENTS:  Logan Temple records, film #0178087, pg 334, 10 Jan 1886, Charles John, born 21 Apr 1843, Mathry, Pembroke, Wales, sealed to Thomas John, born 29 Jan 1820, Wood, Pemborke, Wales and Margaret Thomas John, born 20 Aug 1816, Lochfair, Pembroke, Wales. (Oct 2002)

SEALING TO SPOUSE:  Salt Lake Temple and Endowment House records, film #1149514, pg 543, #8137, Charles John, born 24 April 1865 (1848), Pembroke Wales, was sealed to Elizabeth Williams, born, 29 May 1868 ( 1848), Temby, Pembroke, Wales, in the Endowment House on 10 November 1865 by G Q Cannon with SL Sprague and WW Phelps as witnesses.  (Salt Lake Family History Library, October 2002.  Family group sheets state sealed on 11 of Nov, but there is nothing entered for the 11th, only the 10th of November.)

DIVORCE:  Polygamy divorce granted on 16 Dec 1889.  Because of his polygamy marraiges he was arrested and his families left alone.  He finally agreed to live by the law of the land and gave up two of his wives.  Agnes was very ill from a fall she had suffered many years before and she had to walk on crutches. Elizabeth and Edith thought it best if Charles take Agnes with him so he could care for her.  Elizabeth was expecting her eleventh child,  so Charles waited until the baby was born.  It lived only a few hours.  He divided his cattle and sheep with his families.  He took two covered wagons, Agnes, and their eight children and moved to Mancos, Colorado..  He had married three sisters.

SOURCE:  In notes from my grandmother, LaVerne Marley, who did years of research, "Thomas John and Margaret Thomas had 9 children. My grandfather, Charles John, was the third child.   Charles married 1st, Elizabeth Williams and had eleven children.  Their names were: Margaret Elizabeth, Thomas William, Levi, Lavina, Rebecca, Charles, George, Catherine Minnie, Emeris Samuel, Dora Maud, & Fredilea." (Other spellings of the youngest daughter exist).

More information was submitted on a family group sheet by Cecil John, with  sources listed as family records, Portage Ward Records, and Mancos Ward records.

DEATH:  I have a picture of his headstone in Mancos, Colorado, that was taken by and given to me by Basil John of California. (Anna)
                  
5
Birth:
1 Apr 1845
Guiliaden, Mathry Parish, Pembroke, South Wales
Death:
23 Mar 1924
Logan, Cache, Utah
Marr:
30 Mar 1867
Guiliaden, Mathry Parish, Pemb 
Notes:
                   BIRTH:Certificate YH 229859 Reg. Dist. Haverfordwest, Sub-dist. Saint Davids,
         County of Pembroke, Wales.

BIRTH:Register of Births #SD 4; Registration District Saint Davids; 1845; rec.
         9 Mar 1845.

MARRIAGE: (1) EH Sealings; Book D; p. 323; #6688; FHL film 183,395.
             (2) EH Sealings; Book E; p. 16; #9313; FHL film 183, 396.

DEATH:

BAPTISM: Cuffern Mountain Branch; British Mission; p. 7; #13; FHL film 104,
            168.

ENDOWMENT: EH Endowments; Book E; p. 23; #7; FHL film 183,405.

SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334; FHL film 178,087.
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BIRTH: certificate of birth for the district of Haverfordwest, sub-district of Saint Davids, S. Wales.  Name on birth certificate and on sealing registration spells Ann without an E. and verifies place of birth.

SEALING TO PARENTS:  Logan Temple records, film #0178087, pg 334, 10 Jan 1886, Ann John, born 1 Feb 1845, Mathry, Pembroke, Wales, sealed to Thomas John, born 29 Jan 1820, Wood, Pemborke, Wales and Margaret Thomas John, born 20 Aug 1816, Lochfair, Pembroke, Wales. (Oct 2002)

SEALING:  sealing to Edward Whitfiled Smith, 30 Mar 1867, Endowment House, Salt Lake City, Utah, by President Wilford Woodruff, film #1149515, #9313. (Salt Lake Family History Library, Octoer 2002).

DEATH:  Info from family group sheet of George Wilkinson, a grandson, his mother is #8, Angeline.
                  
6
Birth:
10 Nov 1846
Guiliaden, Mathry Parish, Pembroke, South Wales
Death:
23 Dec 1927
Logan, Cache, Utah
Notes:
                   BIRTH:Certificate  YH 229860 Haverfordwest District, Sub-District of Saint
         David's, County of Pembroke.

MARRIAGE: (1) 30 Mar 1867; EH Sealings; Book E; p. 16, #9314; FHL film
                 183,396.
             (2) SG Sealings; Book A; p. 15; #248; FHL film 170,579.
             (3) for time; LG Sealings; Book A; p. 10; FHL film 178,139.

DEATH: Cemetery Records, Box Elder County, UT; p. 52; FHL 979.242 V3cb.

BURIAL:Portage Cemetery Records; FHL 979.242/P1 V3j.

BAPTISM: Cuffern Mountain Branch; Bristish Mission; p. 7; FHL film 104,168.

ENDOWMENT: EH Endowments; Book F; p. 110; #9; FHL film 183,405.

SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334; FHL film 178,087.
                  
7
Birth:
4 Feb 1849
Castell redding, Mathry Parish, Pembroke, South Wales
Death:
17 Nov 1920
Logan, Cache, Utah
Marr:
13 Oct 1874
Castell redin, Mathry Parish,  
Notes:
                   BIRTH:Certificate  YH 229861 Reg. Dist. Haverfordwest, Sub-dist. Saint Davids,
         County of Pembroke, Wales.

BIRTH:Register of Births #SD 6; Sub-district of Saint Davids; 1849; rec. 2 Mar 1849.

MARRIAGE: (1) EH Sealings; Book H; p. 352; FHL film 183,398.
             (2) EH Sealings; Book J; p. 58; #741; FHL film 183,400.

DEATH/BURIAL: Portage Cemetery Records; FHL Book 979.242/P1 V3j.

BAPTISM: Cuffern Mountain Branch; British Mission; p. 7; #15; FHL film
            104,168. (Rebaptized 2 Dec 1877; Portage Ward; Record of Members; p.
            5; #120; FHL film 0026363)

ENDOWMENT: EH Endowments; Book G; p. 352; #15; FHL film 183,406.

SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334; FHL film 178,087.
                  
8
Birth:
15 Feb 1851
Castell redin, Mathry Parish, Pembroke, South Wales
Death:
7 Mar 1922
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Notes:
                   BIRTH:Certificate YH 229862 Reg. Dist. Haverfordwest, Sub-dist. Saint David's,
         County of Pembroke, Wales.; rec. 15 Mar 1851.
MARRIAGE:
DEATH: Portage Ward Record of Members 1902-1933; p. 1 ; #18; FHL film
          0,026,363.
BURIAL: Portage Cemetery Records; FHL book, 979.242/P1 V3j.
BAPTISM: Cuffern Mountain Branch, British Mission; p. 17; #138; FHL film
            104,168.
ENDOWMENT: EH Endowments; Book 1; p. 2; #5; FHL film 183,408.
SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334; FHL film 178,087.
SS: EH Sealings; Book L; p. 15; FHL film 183,402.

? BIRTH: Register of Births #SD 7;Reistration District Saint Davids; 1851; rec. 15 Mar 1851.
                  
9
Birth:
6 Apr 1853
Castell Redding, Mathry Parish, Pembroke, South Wales
Death:
30 May 1914
Portage, Box Elder, Utah
Marr:
5 Feb 1872
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Uta 
Notes:
                   BIRTH:Certificate YH 229863 Reg. Dist. Haverfordwest, Sub-dist. Saint Davids,
         County of Pembroke, Wales; rec. 6 may 1853.
MARRIAGE: EH Sealings; Book H; p. 90; #1148; FHL film 183,398.
DEATH: Cemetery Records, Box Elder County, UT; p. 44; FHL Book 979.242 V3cb.
BURIAL: Portage Cemetery Records; FHL Book 979242/P1 V3j.
BAPTISM: (Rebaptized 29 Nov 1877; Portage Ward Record of Members, Early to
            1900; p. 4; FHL film 0,026,363)
ENDOWMENT: EH Endowments; Book G; p. 305; #3; FHL film 183,406.
SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 334; FHL film 178,087.
                  
10
Birth:
18 Nov 1855
Guiliaden, Mathry, Pembroke, Wales
Death:
24 Apr 1934
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Marr:
13 Nov 1871
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Uta 
Notes:
                   BIRTH: Cyl y haden, Mathry Parish, Pembrokeshire, South Wales; Registration
          District Haverfordwest; 1855; rec. 7 Dec 1855. Research done by Janet J.
          Newman, 1160 East 200 So., Bountiful, Ut. 84010
MARRIAGE: EH Sealings; Book H; p. 30; #389; FHL film 183,398.
DEATH: UT. Death Certificate; State File #702; rec. 25 Apr 1934.
BAPTISM: (rebaptized 29 Dec 1878; Portage Ward Record of Members; Early to
            1900; p. 9; #220; FHL film 0026363)
ENDOWMENT: EH Endowments: Book G; p. 287; #32; FHL film 183,406.
SP: LG Sealings of Children to Parents; Book A; p. 443; FHL film 178,087.
                  
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Thomas John - Margaret Thomas

Thomas John was born at Wood, Parish of Roach, Pembroke, Wales 2 Feb 1820. His parents were William John and Letitia Phillips.

He married Margaret Thomas 13 Jul 1841 at Parish of Roach, Mathrey, Pembroke, South Wales . Margaret Thomas was born at Pembroke, So. Wales 14 Aug 1815 daughter of William Thomas and Ann James .

They were the parents of 10 children:
Thomas John born Oct 1835.
Phebe John born 17 Dec 1838.
William John born 7 Nov 1841.
Charles John born 21 Apr 1843.
Anne John born 1 Apr 1845.
James John born 10 Nov 1846.
Levi John born 4 Feb 1849.
Henry John born 15 Feb 1851.
Letitia John born 6 Apr 1853.
Mary Jane John born 18 Nov 1855.

Thomas John died 25 Jan 1890 at Portage, Box Elder, Utah .

Margaret Thomas died 8 May 1894 at Portage, Box Elder, Utah .